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swinny
11/28/2013 10:02:20 AM | Just before I left the base at Deenethorpe, I remember an enlisted man who had shot and killed 2 officers who had been giving him a bad time.
“The last I remember seeing him, a young Pollock nicknamed ‘Whitey,’ the guard was exercising him around the perimeter track prior to his court martial.
I never did learn the results of that incident
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Paul Bellamy
11/30/2013 7:30:35 PM | Andy, could you give us some context for that quote please?
Who, when, etc.
Paul Bellamy
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swinny
12/1/2013 5:29:41 AM | This was written by King Henderson , I don't know when this took place, I just though, the killing of 2 officers should ring somebody's bell....
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donaldbyers
12/1/2013 9:54:34 AM | I was trying to look at some other records for this but haven't found anything as of yet. Paul it was those CD's B0488, A0193 and the like but found nothing so far...
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Paul Bellamy
12/1/2013 1:33:52 PM | The only similar thing that sprang to mind was this sad incident:
1st Air Division History: February 1945
On the 18th of this month Cpt. Arthur Yohalem, Assistant Division Quartermaster Officer, met with Lt. Jerome M. Weiner, Quartermaster Officer of Station 128 (Deenethorpe), to visit Station 342 (Atcham) to make preliminary arrangements for the storage and inventory of post, camp, and station property prior to returning this station to the RAF. Lt. Weiner was detailed on temporary duty to Station 342 to assist in the preparation of the Marching Out Inventory.
Lt. Weiner's work in closing out this station was of such fine quality as to merit a letter of commendation from the Division materiel and Maintenance Officer, Col. Guy V. Whetstone... unfortunately however, the letter of commendation was posthumous. In the last week of March Lt. Weiner was murdered at his station.
One of the men in his company, S/Sgt. John E. Nold, went to see Lt. Weiner, supposedly for the purpose of requesting approval of an application to return to the United States, but was told that his case did not warrant the approval requested. Sgt. Nold left the office, went to his barracks, took a German pistol, loaded it, went back to the orderly room, opened the door and emptied the gun into Lt. Weiner who died immediately. Some of the men nearby seized Sgt. Nold and he was taken for trial.
It was certainly the most shocking crime in the history of the First Division, the first case of murder in the Division's records. At this writing the trial of Sgt. Nold on charge of murder is pending.
Paul Bellamy
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donaldbyers
12/3/2013 11:09:07 AM | Good you found that Paul guess that still leaves the main question but you identified a separate incident.....Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Paul Bellamy
11/21/2014 4:32:31 PM | I've had no luck searching the Atcham records so far, so I thought I'd better try the 401st files again.
In the final entry for the 1209th Quartermaster Company there's the following note:
"5 April 1945: John E Nold 12085587, Pvt, transferred to 163rd General Hospital for 7 days."
Just like the name, NARA have no record of that service number on file, but the name and unit seem to match.
That then seems to put the location of Lt. Weiner's murder right back at Deenethorpe instead of Atcham.
Paul Bellamy
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Paul Bellamy
9/1/2015 12:02:54 AM | I found a copy of the JAG review into John Nold's trial tonight, which was held at Brampton in early May 1945.
He was sentenced to be dishonorably discharged with total forfeitures, and confined with hard labor for life at the US Penitentiary at Lewisburg, PA.
The case file confirms the murder took place at Deenethorpe on the morning of March 27th 1945.
I've also managed to find Lt. Weiner in the Rhode Island WWII Honor List (1946) in the Providence County section:
"Weiner, Jerome M. O-1594551 1 Lt. Died Non-Battle" however I still haven't found where he was laid to rest.
Paul Bellamy
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swinny
9/1/2015 9:55:59 AM | Thats great Paul, thanks
This is the story, still don't know who these Henderson boys are, can't find them in our database...
http://robert-robert-says.blogspot.nl/2010/02/ch-5-brothers-in-england.html#links
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