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Johnny Signor
5/9/2010 2:04:31 PM | Hello, I'm looking for anyone who may have a good clear photo of the "early" stateside patch design of the 612th, it was of a large angry standing bear on a cloud and holding an aerial bomb in on raised paw ready to throw it.
I have seen a small photo of a Sgt.Katz wearing this on his cloth flying jacket, and a few other odd photos but none are large or clear enough to use, I am especially wanting the colors to this emblem if at all possible, I know this emblem was short lived as the unit went to the winged falling bomb design, but would Greatly appreciate help in finding a scan/photo etc ,PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE if you have anmy leads contact me, thank you all veterans of this Group both flight crews and ground related personel for what you did for us during WW-2, it is Very Much Appreciated !!!!!!!!!
Johnny
WeBeEmblems@aol.com
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Johnny Signor
1/3/2011 9:22:35 PM | Success at last , via a reply to a posting I have Finally gotten a image of the 612th "Mangler" Bomb Sqd design in full color , the Daughter of a unit navigator who was with the Group called me and told me she had an image she found amongst her Father's belongings and was very kind to e mail the image to me !
I have also e mailed the image to the forum's historian and am hoping he'll post it along with the latter 612th design in the main page that has the patches shown !
Glad to know that it has been found finally and not lost to history , it was used stateside and briefly overseas by what I've been told by actual unit members, it just was short lived and replaced by the latter design , at least now it can be saved from loss and posted where it can be viewed by anyone wanting to know what it looked like etc , also I have been told that the image was made into both cloth and leather patches and I have seen a couple of blurry photos of it actually on jackets in use .
Johnny Signor
WeBeEmblems@aol.com
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donaldbyers
1/3/2011 11:00:19 PM | 
This is good but would still like to have one that was painted on an A2 Jacket on the left front. You can see the staples at the top & bottom. I have not seen a patch of anykind myself. I would also like for you to send me the name of the crewman so I can see what we have on him and what other photos she might have. Thanks for not giving up!!!!
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Johnny Signor
1/4/2011 12:52:05 AM | Hey Don , I sent you a private e mail about the Daughter of the Nav this came from , thanks for posting the color image , note to the forum members, the "actual" jacket patches that I have seen(a few fuzzy photos,black and white) the outer border varies from the simple round one in the color example , it follows the shape of the bears head/upper body and the outer edge of the bomb and the cloud below , other than that most of the design is very similar to the B&W photos.
If and when I can ever find an "actual" cloth or Leather version I will be sure to let the forum know of it , I am very surprised that someone of the actual WW-2 Group hasn't dug one out of a footlocker or storage place , there must be at least a few still out there somewhere , well maybe some day ne will turn up .
In the meantime at least we all have a example in color and an idea of its original form, I believe this one to be either a decal on cardboard or a silkscreened type on cardboard , a lot of the WW-2 unit had them made like this I think as PX types for the Ladies at home and or relatives gifts, some I've seen actually have the unit 's title and or number on them .
Johnny Signor
WeBeEmblems@aol.com
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win-win
1/4/2011 12:30:20 PM | John & Don:
Congratulations on both suvvessful 'quests': 1) Finding a color 'Mangler' image; and 2) Connecting with Crew Kin involved...for more of the '401st' story. Remarkable, and what a way to start the New Year!
Could you please E-mail me a copy of the color image (at win-z@comcast.net)? I would like to now send those, in the Great Falls area, that tried to help me last July, try and find a 'color' Mangler image (although uncuddessfully).
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donaldbyers
1/4/2011 4:49:06 PM | I will forward the photo to you. Not sure why but when I checked this topic it wasn't showing the photo and I had o go back and put the url in again. Ha computer grimlins.
Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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