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Paul Bellamy


11/30/2008 10:33:09 AM
I'm posting this seperately to the previous thread, as rather than building up the crew lists from the wall art, the the nickname placement has turned up some interesting results.

By noting the squadron badges, and the known allocation of each nickname to a squadron, it shows that each squadron had their own section of wall. With the Combat Mess being a Nissen Hut these sections carried on on the opposite side of the room.
The Allocated Aircraft page on the website has a list of aircraft without a known serial number or squadron allocation. By noting which of these nicknames are within each squadron's area of wall, we can work out what squadron they originally were allocated to at least.

Here's the current listing, with the unallocated or non-recorded nicknames underlined.
Spellings and punctuation are those on the wall panels. Where the name is not completely clear on the panel I have noted it with (?):

612th Bomb Squadron:
Fancy Nancy
Bonnie Donnie
Grin N Bare It
Fool's Luck
Channel Express III
Boche Buster
Hell's Angels out of Chute 13 (Grossly Inadequate)
Diana Queen of the Chase
Queen Sally
IP
Fearless Fosdick
Dynamite John

613th Bomb Squadron:
Sweat'er Out
Saint and Ten Sinners
Dancing Girl (?)
Madam Queen
Betty J
Pee-Tey-Kuh
Son of a Blitz
Duffy's Tavern
Fitchett's Bandwagon
Command Performance
BTO in the ETO
Homesick Angel (?)
Wolf's Den
Lady Jane
Zenobia (El Elephante)
Jill's Jalopy
Little Pedro
Satan's Chillen
Madam Queen
Purely Platonic?
Pistol Packin' Mama
Ole 840

614th Bomb Squadron:
Blue Lagoon
Little Rebel
Miss Behavin'
Pffft!
Widdle Twinkle
Bottoms Up
Penny's Thunder Head
Rosie's Sweat Box
Down N Go
Home James
Sweet Seventeen
Liberty Run
Patches
Mountain Dew
Day and Night
Round Tripper
Cawn't Miss
Shade Ruff
Cover Girl
Victory Girl
Battlin' Betty
Betty's Revenge
Flak Rat No1 & No2

615th Bomb Squadron:
Umbriago
Belle of the Brawl
Doolittle's Doughboys
Section 8
Maggie
Freckles
Packawalup
Wolf Pack
Mrs. Aldaflak
Time'll Tell
Duke's Mixture
Batland Bat
Morning Star
Leading Lady
Little Cheezer
Little Boots
Ol' Massa
That Sweet Thing
Mary Makers
Homing Pigeon
Ruff & Reddy
Belle of the Barbary Coast

There are still another 23 panels with something on that i haven't been able to read yet, I'll add those to this list when I can.

All the best,
Paul

Paul Bellamy

swinny


11/30/2008 6:44:23 PM
Hi Paul

I noticed you indentified a wall panel as the WOLF PACK !!
Could you tell me on what picture AC...... you found this plane.

Andy

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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
Paul Bellamy


11/30/2008 7:16:15 PM
"swinny":
Hi Paul

I noticed you indentified a wall panel as the WOLF PACK !!
Could you tell me on what picture AC...... you found this plane.

Andy


Hi Andy,

Unfortunately most of the wall-art photos don't seem to have made it into the NARA archive.
The Wolf Pack panel is on one of the pictures of the Combat Mess walls in the Blue Book.

All the best,
Paul

Paul Bellamy

swinny


11/30/2008 7:25:49 PM
Hi Paul

I just took a look in the blue book ( thanks to Win ) but I can`t find anything,
There is a page that has 14 pictures on it with panels and the headline is combat mess walls, is that the one you mean.
I cant find the name wolf pack anywhere.
This is very important for me.

Andy

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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
Paul Bellamy


11/30/2008 7:30:44 PM
On that page, look at the third row down, right hand picture.
Below "Maggie" and to the left of "Mrs. Aldaflak", it's the panel with the light fixture hanging over it.
The artwork shows a bomb with a wolf's head over the middle.

All the best,
Paul

Paul Bellamy

swinny


11/30/2008 7:54:41 PM
Hi Paul

Yes , yes I see it , its very hard to see , but its there.
So now I know what the wolf pack looks like.

As you know , I adopted 4 men from the wolf pack , and until now , i did n`t found anything about the plane.

Its very hard to see , is that the same with you , or is your picture in the book better ?

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My adoption graves http://www.remember-our-heroes.nl/us_401stBG.htm
win-win


12/2/2008 11:28:07 PM
Paul & Swinny:

Paul, you're right, I formally requested the National Archives about 'other' Combat Mess ceiling panel photos and, they cameu-up 'negative'.

Could our own 401st 'archives' have prints of these other ceiling panel photos? I know Don Anderson needs a replacement'Historian' with his new duties, but I for one would love to look through 'boxes of 401st photos'.

Do you have a 'blow-up' of 'Son of a Blitz' panel, 613Sq. Fowler Crew? If not, let me know.

Win


Shade Ruff


12/3/2008 3:46:02 PM
I have a photograph (of a photograph) sent to me by a fellow 401st BG (H) veteran's family member. This photo clearly shows the Shade Ruff artwork and its two associated crews on the mess hall ceiling panels. If I'm not mistaken, some other plane/crew names are also legible in this photo. As I remember it, the person who sent me the photo said his relative had taken personal photos of some of the panels while stationed at Deenethorpe.

My uncle's crew roster is clearly listed as Crew 1 under the Shade Ruff name and artwork. He was Shade Ruff's original bombardier.

I will pull the photo tonight and list all legible plane/crew names that appear on it. More to follow.

Regards,

Shade Ruff


Shade Ruff


12/4/2008 6:51:09 AM
I found the photograph. It is a surprisingly good close up of a section of the mess hall ceiling. In the photo, eight 614th BS (H) aircraft names and/or artwork and their associated crews are depicted. As I mentioned previously, my photo was kindly provided by a relative of a Liberty Run crew member.

The aircraft names are listed side by side in twos from top to bottom.

Liberty Run/Patches

Day and Night/Round Tripper

Shade Ruff/Cover Girl

Battlin' Betty/Betty's Revenge

Understanding this is a photograph of a photograph, the majority of the crew members' ranks and names are nevertheless still legible (although a magnifying glass was necessary). The names are listed underneath the respective aircraft names. Liberty Run, Round Tripper, Shade Ruff and Cover Girl each have two crews listed.

I will post the respective ranks/names as they appear on the ceiling panels In the Air Crews sub-form once I've done a bit more detective work. More to follow.

Regards,

Shade Ruff


Paul Bellamy


12/4/2008 7:07:40 PM
From the sounds of it, this is the photo of the panels you're referring to:



This is a scan of the version in the Blue Book, hence the low quality.

All the best,
Paul

Paul Bellamy

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