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Donald Byers
1/30/2003 8:44:45 AM
Found in the SSDI Social Security Death Index that Mr. Fish passed away on 2March 1998 in Maryland.

If anyone had additional info on him and possible relatives I would like them to get intouch with me.  My uncle trained with him in the states before they went over seas.  They flew Jill's Jalopy on the first mission and was shot down.  My uncle was transfered to another crew on the Carrie B II piloted by Maxwell Cain.  Both planes went down on a mission to Weimar on 24 Aug 1944.

Thanks
Jeffery L. Lyall
2/17/2003 8:23:08 PM
My father, Lester Lyall, of the Al Hanson crew, "Little Pedro", flew with both of the men mentioned in your message.  On Dads mission #20 he and the Little Pedro toggilier, Bernard Geen flew with Lt. Cain.  Dads diary says they hit nasty weather in and out and dropped on a marshalling yard instead of the briefed target of Munich.  Dad flew mission #22 with Lt. Fish.  Dads pilot was ill and according to Dads diary this was Lt. Fish's first mission.  Dads diary says "Flew mission twenty-three on Thursday, Aug. 24.  The target-a munitions factory at Weimar near Leipzig, Germany.  We flew #1 of the high sqd. high box.  Our group was hit by fighters just south of Hamburg, the low box took the brunt of the attack.  We lost two crews to 109's  Attack lasted about 10 minutes.  Flak was moderate over target.  Carried 3-500 lb RDX bombs.  Mission lasted   8 1/2 hrs-5 hrs on oxygen."  I had noted from my reading about the 401st that the only two pilots Dad flew with besides "Pop" Hanson were both shot down on the same mission, which dad was also on.  My friend Joe LaGrasta was on the regular crew of Jills Jalopy.  He told me they came back from a pass and their plane was gone!
     In some material I have, Lt. Fish is listed as L.S. Fish.  Which is right? I would like very much to communicate with Lt. Cain if anyone knows his whereabouts.  Bernard Green, the toggilier who flew the mission with Dad and Lt.Cain, passed away last fall.
  


      Jeff Lyall  

Donald Byers
2/25/2003 8:44:24 AM
Jeff,
Thanks for that info.  My uncle flew his first and last mission with Lt. Cain.  I have talked with Lt. Maxwell Cain about 4 years ago he didn't remember my uncle as he was a last minute replacement from Fish's crew.  I spoke also with the engineer of Fish's crew who identified the nose art of Jill's Jalopy.  As there are a number of records out there that have switched Fish and Cain on what planes they were flying on 24 Aug 1944.  I doubt if there was any mention of my uncle?  Donald C. Byers

Tks Don Byers