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Frédéric HALLOUIN
12/29/2002 11:44:11 AM
bonjour
I look for serial numbers of the machine gun of the B17 4239873 Stormy Weather of the 401BG 615BS that collapsed to Chartres France the 01 08 1944.  
I possessed the MACR but that doesn't include these serial numbers.  
While falling it touched the B17 4357859.  
I look for information on these two planes.

Merci d'avance
Jack Reid
1/2/2003 6:07:25 AM
42-39873 (IY-Q) "Stormy Weather" was a Lockheed built original 401st a/c that was apparently lost on Mission 120 to Chartres after a mid air collision with Boeing built "Jeanne" (IY-D) 43-37859 (not 43-57859) - the reference info on the site lists 6 documented missions for "Stormy Weather" - the last with 1st Lt G.L. Melofchik and crew; only 1 mission for "Jeanne" with 2nd Lt R.B. Sproul and crew - all listed as MIA - Hope this can be of some help
Bon Chance
Scott McElvain
1/11/2003 8:52:59 AM
There is a negative (#A65531AC) of 4239873 held by the National Archives.  They don't have one of the other plane.  For information on getting copies, see page three of the forum under "Getting photos from the National Archives...."
"GI" Blumenthal
1/24/2003 10:27:32 AM
Hi Scott,

Nice job, old buddy.

Message you again in the future.

"GI"
Ben Mallon
3/21/2004 10:05:46 PM
My dad, Richard William Mallon, flew Stormy Weather as co-pilot.  He said he heard that the aircraft was lost because it flew into the wake turbulence of another aircraft (they called it 'prop wash' at that time) and the crew didn't react quickly enough.  He said that it takes full opposite rudder and aileron, and you have to hold it for a little bit, to escape from that situation.