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| '''Janice''' <br/>6/25/2001 8:48:11 AM 
| I am researching the &quot;Pistol Packin' Mama&quot; that went down At Wohlsborn on 20 July, 1944. The aircraft #: 42-31037. Three of the nine crewmen were killed by civilians after they landed on the ground. I am looking for the specifics of this. The 3 killed: Navigator 2LT. Owen H. Jorgensen, Radio Op: T/Sgt. John jS. Spriodex. Tail gunner: S/Sgt. Donald H. Schmidli (sp.?) Any help will be appreciated.<br/> <br/>  
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| '''Donald A. Byers''' <br/>6/29/2001 8:26:27 PM 
| Jane,<br/>  <br/> If you haven't checked my web page do so.   [http://members.home.net/dabyers2/<br/>] <br/> 2nd Lt. K.R. Murgatroyd     Pilot          POW<br/> 2nd Lt. J.E  Pennoyer Jr.   Co-Pilot       POW<br/> 2nd Lt. O.H. Jorgenson      Navigator      KIA<br/> 2nd Lt. J.K. Elderkin Jr.   Bombardier   &nbsp;  POW<br/> S/Sgt. J.S. Spirodex        Radio Op.      KIA<br/> T/Sgt. S. Lesser            Engineer       POW<br/> S/Sgt. J.P. Robertson       Ball Turret    POW<br/> S/Sgt. D.H. Schmitt         Tail Gunner    KIA<br/> S/Sgt. H.N. Magunson        Waist Gunner   POW<br/>  <br/>  <br/> Missions<br/> Vitry-en-artois       12th June 44<br/> Le Bourget            13th June 44<br/> Hamburg               20th June 44<br/> Berlin                21st June 44<br/> Frevent               22rd June 44<br/> Fienvilliers          23rd June 44<br/> Belloy-Sur-Somme      24th June 44<br/> Montbartier           25th June 44<br/> Renescure              6th July 44<br/> Munich                13th July 44<br/> Munich                16th July 44<br/> Leipzig               20th July 44   Pistol Packin' Mama  42-31037<br/>  <br/> Shot Down by flack near Weimar.<br/>  <br/> Delivered Cheyenne 8/9/43; assigned 613BS/401BG (IN-F) Deenethrope 30/10/43; MIA Leipzig 20/7/44 w/Murgatroyd; cr Liebstedt Germany MACR 7545.<br/>  <br/> Picture Exists at National Archives e-mail to the following address:  stillpix@arch2.nara.gov<br/> They will send a photo paper copy of what they have.  You then can order a real photo through a vendor about $28.00 for 5x7 print.<br/>  <br/> Give name of the plane Group and Squadron.  Give your home address as they will only respond by regular mail.  They will let you know by e-mail that they received your request.<br/>  <br/> Donald Byers<br/> Lubbock Texas<br/>  
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| '''Donald A. Byers''' <br/>6/29/2001 9:09:13 PM 
| James J Elderkin            <br/> 5325 California Ave<br/> Bethel Park, PA 15102  Phone: 412-833-3170 <br/> <br/> This is the Bombadier's address.  Give him a call that is the best way.<br/> <br/> Don Byers 
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| '''Ken McPherson''' <br/>7/12/2001 9:28:57 PM 
| Hello Janice, I too am researching for data on 'Pistol Pckin' Mama' B-l7 Ser. # 42-30l37 for Helga Radau of Barth, Ger ( home of Stalag Luft #l).<br/> Would you be so kind as to share with what data you have gatherd thus far. E-mail would be appreciated. Thank you. Ken McPherson 8th AFHS.<br/>  
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| '''Roberta Jorgensen Baker''' <br/>7/25/2001 12:15:44 AM 
| Don, I just found your research on the missions of Pistol Packin' Mama. My uncle was the navigator, Owen H. Jorgensen (please note the correct spelling). I appreciate finding out the missions that he flew. I will order a picture based on your information. Thank you.<br/>  
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| '''Bernd Schmidt, US Veterans Friends Germany''' <br/>6/4/2005 4:39:22 PM 
| Hi Janine,<br/> what's the matter of your research???<br/> Can you give more information about the Wohlsborn Case????<br/> Bernd<br/> USVFG<br/>  
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| '''Bernd Schmidt, US Veterans Friends Germany''' <br/>6/4/2005 4:47:23 PM 
| Dear Mr. Byers,<br/> we are from a association who contact, respect and honor the liberators of 1945. One of our parts is the cases of the killed and prisones airmen.<br/> Can you give us mor information about the Pistol Packin Mama which was sot down in our area in 1944??<br/> Can you send a copy of the picture??<br/> <br/> Sincerely<br/> Bernd Schmidt<br/> USVFG<br/>  
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| '''Bernd Schmidt, US Veterans Friends Germany''' <br/>6/4/2005 4:54:35 PM 
| Dear Mr. McPherson,<br/> can you send me the resut of research about Pistol Packin Mama???? The plane was shot down in or area in 1944.<br/> Sincrely<br/> Bernd<br/>  
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| '''Bernd Schmidt, US Veterans Friends Germany''' <br/>6/4/2005 4:54:39 PM 
| Dear Mr. McPherson,<br/> can you send me the resut of research about Pistol Packin Mama???? The plane was shot down in or area in 1944.<br/> Sincrely<br/> Bernd<br/>  
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| '''Bernd Schmidt,, US Veterans Germany''' <br/>6/14/2005 3:22:03 PM 
| Hi Janice,<br/> can you write more about your research about Pistol Packing Mama????<br/> <br/> Bernd<br/> Weimar/Germany<br/>  
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| '''Don''' <br/>11/19/2009 10:23:55 AM 
|   I don't think the archive photo is the correct one for this plane.My father was part of the ground crew for this plane, and he took pictures of the nose art on all the planes he was assigned to. The artwork was completely different and the plane was olive drab,not unpainted like the archive picture shows.He was at Deenethorpe from its opening to the base closing and only remembers the one &quot;Mama&quot;. there were other planes from different squadrons that had the same name, I think thats where this picture comes from.  <br/>  
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