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General Posts #238
{s:TopicNav|401BG "RCM Ships" Photo Gallery|ForumNew.T1369|ForumNew.T0614|ForumNew.T0601|ForumNew.F01|ForumNew.T0598|ForumNew.T0585|ForumNew.T0005} {| class='ForumTopics' ! Posted !! Message |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/10/2010 4:11:53 PM | I've split this off from the [T0540|"Mickey Ships" thread] as more information is coming to light regarding those B-17s of the 401st which were fitted with the "Carpet" radio countermeasures systems.<br/> <br/> I've spotted a number of aircraft fitted with the distinctive "fish hook" AS-69 Antenna of the AN/APT-2 "Carpet" Radio Countermeasures jamming set under the nose. This device was designed to jam the German Wurtzburg and Flak gunlaying radar equipment.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/APT-2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>"Little Larry"</b><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/LittleLarry.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38738 IW-N Becomin' Back</b><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/BecominBack2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38788 SC-T Heavy Date</b><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Heavydate2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>44-6588 IN-D Carrie B IV</b><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/CarrieBIV2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38733 SC-K I'll Be Seeing You</b><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/BSU2.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>Unidentified a/c</b><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/401%20pix/Unk12.jpg' /><br/> <br/> More to come as I find them.....<br/> <br/> TTFN,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>3/10/2010 5:04:05 PM | maybe it gets old you hearing this, maybe not..either way, will say it again...THANKS for these photo's Paul, very nice!! <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> |- | '''EDanaII''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/EDanaII.jpg' /></div><br/>3/10/2010 6:19:17 PM | Watch out, guys! (I don't trust those arrows... I think they're up to no good!) <br/><br/><a href='/p2769.ashx'><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/wmSig401st150p.gif' /></a><br/> <br/> |- | '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>3/10/2010 7:02:51 PM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"EDanaII":</span><br/>Watch out, guys! (I don't trust those arrows... I think they're up to no good!)</blockquote><br/> <br/> <br/> LOL!!! <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/11/2010 7:47:59 PM | Here's the current (almost certainly incomplete) list of confirmed and probable Carpet-equipped B-17s within the 401BG:<br/> <br/> Confirmed:<br/> 43-38646 IW-T<br/> 43-38733 SC-K I'll Be Seeing You <br/> 43-38738 IW-N Becomin' Back <br/> 43-38788 SC-T Heavy Date <br/> 43-39125 IN-M Der Grossarschvogel <br/> 44-6588 IN-D Carrie B IV<br/> <br/> Probable:<br/> 42-102947 IN-S D-Day Dottie <br/> 42-31591 IN-J Homesick Angel<br/> 43-37706 IN-U Satan's Chillen<br/> 44-6313 IN-F Budd's Dudds <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/14/2010 11:34:57 AM | Lewis Winker was a Carpet RCM operator with the 401st's sister group, the 351BG at nearby Polebrook.<br/> Here's a link to his story, which explains the system very well:<br/> <br/> [http://winker.net/lewis/carpet.htm]<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''MaryAlice''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>3/14/2010 1:43:38 PM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"Paul Bellamy":</span><br/>Lewis Winker was a Carpet RCM operator with the 401st's sister group, the 351BG at nearby Polebrook.<br/> Here's a link to his story, which explains the system very well:<br/> <br/> [http://winker.net/lewis/carpet.htm]<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul</blockquote><br/> <br/> <br/> Everytime you come up with another link, or another photograph Paul...it has become "humorous", not humorous ha-ha, but humorous in shaking my head in disbeilief/putting a smile on my face and saying wow....THAT humorous. <br/><br/><span style='color: #0000FF'>Derrick Morris, Grandson of S/Sgt Engr/Top Turret William "Dale" Sartor, 615th BS 401st BG, "Mary Alice"</span><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>2/9/2011 8:12:16 PM | List update, RCM ships confirmed so far from mission formation diagrams:<br/> <br/> <b>42-107151</b> <br/> IW-B <i>Cover Girl</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMCov.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-37551</b> <br/> IY-L IW-Y <br/> No photo yet<br/> <br/> <b>43-37706</b> <br/> IN-U <i>Satan's Chillen</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMSChil1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38541</b> <br/> SC-F <i>Diabolical Angel</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMDBA1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38565</b> <br/> IW-X <i>Miss Gee Eyewanna Go Home</i><br/> No photo yet<br/> <br/> <b>43-38637</b> <br/> SC-L<br/> No photo yet<br/> <br/> <b>43-38646</b> <br/> IW-T<br/> No photo yet<br/> <br/> <b>43-38733</b> <br/> SC-K <i>I'll Be Seeing You </i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMIBCU.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38738</b> <br/> IW-N <i>Becomin' Back </i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMBB.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38758</b> <br/> IN-P <i>Fast Company</i><br/> No photo yet<br/> <br/> <b>43-38779</b> <br/> IY-O <i>Rough but Right</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMRbR1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38788</b> <br/> SC-T <i>Heavy Date</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMHD1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-38810</b><br/> IY-N SC-V <i>Mrs Knobby</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMMKno1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <b>43-39125</b> <br/> IN-M <i>Der Grossarschvogel </i><br/> No photo yet<br/> <br/> <b>44-6588</b> <br/> IN-D <i>Carrie B IV</i><br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/RCMCB4.jpg' /><br/> <br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>3/8/2011 9:00:04 AM | I finally have some concrete information on the RCM installations in the 401st's B-17s. 🙂<br/> <br/> From the Group Operational Report for November 1944:<br/> <br/> <blockquote>On Saturday, 25 November 1944, the 401st Bomb Group flew it's first Carpet-equipped mission.<br/> Two Carpet transmitters were installed in all aircraft on the formation sheet with the exception of the Group Lead and Deputy Lead, the High squadron lead, PFF aircraft, as well as any flying or ground spares.</blockquote><br/> <br/> From the GOR for January 1945:<br/> <br/> <blockquote>Spot jamming installations have been made in three (3) A/C of each squadron.<br/> This means that in addition to barrage type jamming our formations will now be afforded additional protection through spot jamming of German radar frequencies.</blockquote><br/> <br/> And from the GOR for February 1945:<br/> <br/> <blockquote>On the 9th of February 1945 the first "spot" mission was flown by this group.<br/> Each spot jamming aircraft is equipped with an operator, three Carpet transmitters and a spot receiver.<br/> Two of these spot jamming aircraft fly in each twelve aircraft squadron.</blockquote><br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |}
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