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{s:TopicNav|B-17 Restoration....|ForumNew.T1369|ForumNew.T0351|ForumNew.T0335|ForumNew.F01|ForumNew.T0332|ForumNew.T0318|ForumNew.T0005} {| class='ForumTopics' ! Posted !! Message |- | '''warbirdguru''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>4/4/2008 1:42:29 PM | I was just wondering if anyone had seen this B-17 restoration currently taking place...There is a painting on the wall of an aircraft in 401st colors.... I believe this could be a potential paint scheme for the aircraft when it is finished, and she is being made airworthy!<br/> <br/> [http://www.b17project.com]<br/> <br/> Has anyone else seen this? <br/><br/><br/> |- | '''EDanaII''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/EDanaII.jpg' /></div><br/>4/4/2008 4:57:52 PM | I have now. 🙂 Thanks for posting it.<br/> <br/> Of course, if they're gonna restore it as a 401st plane, I vote for the Hard Seventeen!<br/> <br/> ... yea, I know... I'm a wee bit prejudiced. 😉 <br/><br/><a href='/p2769.ashx'><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/wmSig401st150p.gif' /></a><br/> <br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>4/13/2008 10:02:25 AM | <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Jan230003.jpg' /><br/> <br/> How nice does this look???? 😃<br/> <br/> And from the distinguished visitors........<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Kenneth_Peters.jpg' /><br/> <br/> TTFN,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''EDanaII''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/EDanaII.jpg' /></div><br/>4/15/2008 1:49:03 PM | It looks awesome, but it's the wrong serial number, I tell's ya! Just wrong! It should be changed to: 2102659 and the letter J!<br/> <br/> (Evil Grin)<br/> <br/> Ed. <br/><br/><a href='/p2769.ashx'><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/wmSig401st150p.gif' /></a><br/> <br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>4/15/2008 2:39:24 PM | Well, 44-85813 is the serial number of the plane currently registered as N3154S (formerly N6694C), which is the Registry of what will be the result of the Urbana rebuild.<br/> <br/> However, it incorporates parts from a number of airframes, and their histories are quite interesting.<br/> <br/> Looking at the bits and pieces as they arrived, plus info made available from the restoration team...<br/> <br/> 44-83316: Fuselage centre section (Bomb bay and Radio Room).<br/> '316 was a B-17G-75-DL, sold by the Air Force to 20th Century Fox in 1964 and used as a prop for the 12 O'clock High TV series. The forward fuselage was fitted to 44-85813 in an earlier rebuild sometime between 1967 and 1983.<br/> <br/> 44-83525: Tail.<br/> '525 was a B-17G-85-DL, and was the last B-17 to remain at the Davis Mothan storage yard, being there until 1967. After film work, including "The War Lover", and the rounds of various museums she was displayed as Suzy Q in Florida until damaged in Hurricane Andrew, currently believed to be under restoration. Her Civil Registration is N83525.<br/> <br/> 44-83722: Wings and Fuselage parts.<br/> '722 was converted from a B-17G to a B-17H/SB-17G air-sea rescue aircraft with a lifeboat underneath, then became a training version of the same (TB-17H) before being used as a target for Atom Bomb tests in Nevada until 1965. The remaining hulk was used for spare parts, ending up being owned by the same chap as '525.<br/> <br/> 44-85813: Parts and identity.<br/> '813 was used by the Curtiss-Wright Corporation from 1945 to 1966 as an turboprop engine testbed (EB-17G/JB-17G), with a fifth powerplant fitted to the nose. After that (around 1969-70) she was rebuilt to standard with the forward fuselage from '316 and flown as a firebombing tanker before crashing in 1980.<br/> <br/> So... should she really be 44-83316, as that's where 2/3 of the fuselage comes from, or 44-83722 due to having her wings? 😉 Whichever, I can't wait to see her flying with the 401st's Yellow Flash.<br/> <br/> Note: The above information is the best I can find at the present time, but may not be 100% accurate. <br/> <br/> TTFN,<br/> Paul, your local B-17 Geek. <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''EDanaII''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/EDanaII.jpg' /></div><br/>4/16/2008 10:26:10 AM | Jeez, Paul! You really are a "B-17 geek." But that's why we like ya! 🙂<br/> <br/> As to what plane it should be, you left out one very important argument as to why it should be the Hard Seventeen: 'cause I said so! 😉<br/> <br/> Yes, it will be wonderful to see the 401st represented among the surviving B-17s, regardless of which plane they choose to represent. <br/> <br/> Ed. <br/><br/><a href='/p2769.ashx'><img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/wmSig401st150p.gif' /></a><br/> <br/> |- | '''Phoenix''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/NoAvatar.gif' /></div><br/>4/16/2008 2:06:25 PM | Paul,<br/> Where do you find the time to collect all this information? Don't you work or sleep or eat or watch TV or annoy you neighbours??? you must be doing 24/7 research, all I can do is read my Blue Book one paragraph at a time per week 😂 <br/> Slow down so I can catch up :mrgreen: <br/> All the best<br/> Dale <br/><br/>improvise, adapt, overcome<br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>4/16/2008 5:39:01 PM | <blockquote><span class='author'>"Phoenix":</span><br/>Paul,<br/> Where do you find the time to collect all this information? Don't you work or sleep or eat or watch TV or annoy you neighbours??? you must be doing 24/7 research</blockquote><br/> <br/> To be honest, most of the research is by other people, I just know where to look for the results and cross-reference them. 😉<br/> Admittedly I've been spending 6-10 hours at a sitting most days these last couple of weeks doing some very specific B-17 technical info-hunting. I now have the complete parts list for both the AN/APQ-13 and AN/APS-15 PFF radar installations, If anyone wants a copy ....... 😉<br/> I've even sourced one of the major components, which will hopefully be heading off to assist in fitting out 44-8543 with an PFF set, if they ever get back to me that is.<br/> <br/> Ahh, the things you end up doing whilst killing time. 😉 <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>7/2/2008 2:26:19 PM | Just had a quick look at the rebuild's progress via the web-cam.<br/> <br/> The tail fin is masked up and primed ready for painting that very special yellow stripe and triangle S. : )<br/> Good to see the volunteers busy at work too.<br/> <br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k227/ramc181/Urbanacomp1.jpg' /><br/> <br/> Top left: The tail fin.<br/> Top right: The waist section.<br/> Bottom left: Cockpit and top turret position.<br/> Bottom right: Bomb bay and dinghy stowage.<br/> <br/> All the best,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |- | '''Paul Bellamy''' <br/><br/><div class='poster-info'><img src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/Paul Bellamy.jpg' /></div><br/>9/10/2008 2:39:00 PM | I've re-hosted the missing photo's from earlier in the thread so they can be viewed once more.<br/> <br/> TTFN,<br/> Paul <br/><br/>Paul Bellamy<br/> <img class='ForumMaxImgWidth' src='/public/Attachments/ForumNew.MainPage/resource1.png' /><br/> |}
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