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Paul Bellamy  
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 1, 2008 10:46:02 AM(UTC)
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I found this over on the late Willard Reese's 457th Bomb Group website listed as a mystery airplane, not on the 457th roster:

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Does anyone know anything about Virgil Goudy, the chap in the photograph?

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Paul
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win-win  
#2 Posted : Sunday, June 1, 2008 5:00:44 PM(UTC)
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Paul:
1. (another) Great 'find'! Is it possible another 401st A/C 'unknown', 231081 [IN-c] 'Son of A Blitz', is there also? I looked, but didn't even find 'Sniklefritz'...operator error?
2. Sorry to learn of W. Reese's passing. He was always helpful to us, most recently in trying to find what Unit my Uncle's 'buddy', Radioman Sgt. H.L. Bussey, ser.36457879, was in - near Deenethorpe - (even though unsuccessful).
Thoughts?
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donaldbyers  
#3 Posted : Monday, June 2, 2008 11:15:22 AM(UTC)
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Yes this is a better picture of the nose art on the aircraft. When I was just scanning some of the pictures I have I believe there is one on the disks that I have but not as nice as this one.

Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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Paul Bellamy  
#4 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:43:58 AM(UTC)
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Tying up loose ends again....

From previous posts we know that Snicklefritz, which currently lacks a serial number identity, was the usual plane flown by the Jetter Crew.
From the loading lists and Mr. Jetter's own list I've filled in the gaps in the crew mission list:

1.   Bernay/St Martin (88) 11 Jun 1944   42-97344  Carrie B II   
2.   Le Bourget (90) 14 Jun 1944   43-37511      
3.   Bordeaux (93) 19 Jun 1944   43-37511      
4.   Hamburg (94) 20 Jun 1944   44-6132       
X.   Fienvilliers (98) 23 Jun 1944   44-6132    (Scrubbed from load list, did not fly mission)  
5.   Belloy-Sur-Somme (99) 24 Jun 1944   44-6132       
6.   Montbartier (100) 25 Jun 1944   44-6113 No.2 Bandwagon   
7.   Laon/Couvron (101) 28 Jun 1944   42-32005   (Typed as 42-31005 on load list)
8.   Saumur (102) 4 Jul 1944   44-6132       
9.   Rely (103) 6 Jul 1944   44-6132       
10.   Renescure (104) 6 Jul 1944   44-6132       
11.   Munich (108) 12 Jul 1944   44-6132       
12.   Munich (109) 13 Jul 1944   42-97344  Carrie B II 
13.   Munich (110) 16 Jul 1944   44-6132       
14.   Augsburg (112) 19 Jul 1944   44-6132       
15.   Strasbourg (121) 3 Aug 1944   44-6132       
16.   Anklam (122) 4 Aug 1944   44-6132       
17.   Hautmensil (125) 8 Aug 1944   44-6132       
18.   Luxembourg (126) 9 Aug 1944   44-6132       
19.   Elbeuf (128) 13 Aug 1944   44-6132       
20.   Haggenau (129) 14 Aug 1944   44-6132       
21.   Yvoir (131) 18 Aug 1944   44-6132       
22.   Berlin (Recall) (136) 27 Aug 1944   42-102947  D-Day Dottie    
23.   Mannheim (140) 9 Sep 1944   42-31662  Fancy Nancy IV    
24.   Merseburg (142) 11 Sep 1944   42-97395 Chute the Works (614 Sqn. a/c)  
25.   Merseburg (143) 13 Sep 1944   44-6132       
26.   Groesbeek (144) 17 Sep 1944   44-6132    (Typed as 44-61132 on load list)  
27.   Hamm (145) 19 Sep 1944   44-6132       
28.   Cologne (149) 27 Sep 1944   44-6132       
29.   Munster (151) 30 Sep 1944   44-6132       
30.   Stargard (153) 6 Oct 1944   44-6132       
31.   Cologne (157) 17 Oct 1944   44-6132       
32.   Mannheim (158) 19 Oct 1944   44-6132       
33.   Hanover (159) 22 Oct 1944   44-6132       
34.   Hamburg (160) 25 Oct 1944   44-6132

With the exception of seven missions, their usual aircraft was IN-B 44-6132, the most likely candidate to be Snicklefritz.

See these other posts for more info:
1st Lt. Robert W. Cain, 613th Bomb Squadron
Jetter-Cain Crew First Combat Mission 6-14-1944

All the best,
Paul
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#5 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2011 2:36:03 PM(UTC)
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Paul,

I have updated the records to reflect the info from the loading lists. I did change the 11 Sep 1944 serial from 37395 to 97395 which is the correct tail nr. for Chute the Works.

Don
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Paul Bellamy  
#6 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:30:40 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Don,

I don't know why I wrote 37395, I did it once while I was compiling my notes and then corrected it , but forgot to correct it again when I transferred the typed list. :oops:

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Paul
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#7 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2011 8:02:21 PM(UTC)
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No problem you have caught me before also and I appreciate the back up!!!! My Friend....

Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:56:37 AM(UTC)
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Don, 43-37511 is Jill's Jalopy. I wonder if Joe knows somebody else flew his plane. (Probably without his permission.) Bill Pettit son of George Pettit, Jack Lipperts TT/Eng
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#9 Posted : Sunday, March 13, 2011 11:30:55 AM(UTC)
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Joe knows the plane was used by others we have been in contact since 1999. On 25 Aug 1944 Joe and crew went out to the hardstand to find out their aircraft wasn't there. It had been shot down the previous day, 24 Aug 1944, with the crew of Lt. M.S. Fish in it. However they were told that Lt. Maxwell Cain was the pilot and until I had researched it and told him of the error that was made he now knew the truth after so many years believing it was Cain flying his plane that day. My uncle was the Togglier on that mission and was KIA.

Don
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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#10 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 6:44:57 AM(UTC)
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Don, I looked at dad's journal again yesterday. He wrote:"August 24,1944 Subject: Jill's Jalopy went down today. Hit by M.E. 109 fighters. A new crew, Lt. Fish, and there (sp) first mission. The target was Leipzig." So dad knew who was flying Jill's Jalopy, when it happened. Joe has told me, again yesterday, that the "old guys" up front (Tom, Jack and Dad) didn't talk to the younger guys in the back much. Dad was 30 years old and Joe was 18 (I think). It took contact with you to answer many questions Joe had for all those years. Joe has said Dad's journal answered many questions too. Keep up the good work. Bill Pettit, son of George Pettit, Jack Lippert's TT/Eng
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#11 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2011 5:13:35 PM(UTC)
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The Mission for 24 Aug 1944 was Weimar a V2 Plant & Parts manufature. Also I don't remember (sorry) do I have a copy of that journal?

Don
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 2:31:45 PM(UTC)
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Sorry Don, I thought I sent you and Paul Bellamy both copies. Give me an address and I'll send a CD copy. Bill
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:57:51 PM(UTC)
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Address sent via email.....
Sgt. Donald C. Byers, 613th Bomb Squadron, Togglier, 42-97344 Carrie B II, KIA 08/24/1944.
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#14 Posted : Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:37:16 AM(UTC)
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S/Sgt Virgil Goudy was a camera repair technician with the Photo Lab on the 457th BG's base at nearby RAF Glatton, where the initial photo was taken.
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